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Tuesday, August 3, 2021

Cream - Wheels Of Fire (1968) {2013 SHM Edition} [CSG Decoded]


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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55 comments:

Nappyrags said...

Well this looks sweet...first time though I've seen the "Too Many downloads, etc"...guess I'll try the work around listed...thanks mucho for this...one of the best ever

jimmie d said...

Sweet! Looking forward to this, plus the bonus tracks. Thanks, Professor.

Nappyrags said...

working now...thanks for the link to the work around....

Anonymous said...

Thanks for this rip Profstoned. Much appreciated.

dr blues

Ariel C said...

I love collecting these mini-lp shm discs, but I don't have this, vary nice surprise! Many thanks Prof Stoned!

tom said...

Beautiful sound.Thank You so much.

Noises From Apt 2A said...

Well, now this is a surprise ! Love the fact that it's from a flat master. A double dollop of Cream in one week .... fantastic ! By the way (since you have good ears), how does the 1992 DCC stand up to this version?
Thanks again !

Prof. Stoned said...

Too heavily EQ'd for my taste. The original mix may not be a sonic masterpiece and thats why the dcc tries to get rid of some of the muddiness, but this version sounds most 'correct' to me.

Noises From Apt 2A said...

Kinda answering my own question: I just stared doing some A/Bing between this version and the DCC and it's like day & night. I guess Steve Hoffman was stuck with a really inferior source because the audio distortion of the DCC is now so noticeably when checking it against your version.
The other strange thing I'm noticing with the DCC version is the overall high volume levels which for a Steve Hoffman remaster is a very odd thing since he normally goes the other way so one can really hear all of the fidelity at any volume it is played back at ... weird ?!

Now imagine how truly amazing this album would have been if Cream didn't use (or get stuck with) Felix Pappalardi. Both Cream & Mountain albums are a mere shadows of themselves due to Felix's productions (in my opinion).

Prof. Stoned said...

Tom Dowd deserves some of the blame as well.. they should have done the whole thing at ibc.

The dcc also has many digitally truncated peaks. I've read most dcc masters suffer from that. Supposedly the mastertape was used. It has its fans, but its too overcooked for me.

Noises From Apt 2A said...

Overcooked ... That is the correct word for it.
I can't get over how clear your version is ... truly amazing ! I'll be listening to this over and over again this week .... you know, the way we used to listen to records when we first bought them ...hahaha.

Prof. Stoned said...

Dig it, man.

Noises From Apt 2A said...

Dare I get greedy ? ... Are you working on a 2013 Flat Transfer repair series ?

Unknown said...

Not only master tape was used for DCC disc, Hoffman stole it, as usual. He returned tape copy back to archive. You have to take my word for it.

- Eugene

Prof. Stoned said...

YIKES!!

warpig said...

Thanks for this, Very much appreciated.

Anonymous said...

Many thanks for this. I always thought this alubum sounded a bit 'off', now I know why. Your version is a revelation.

Noises From Apt 2A said...

I can't thank you enough, Prof.

marmalade said...

Fantastic as always Prof, many from Scotland thanks for all your work

Noises From Apt 2A said...

Turnabout is fairplay ... I did find 2014 SHM CD "Goodbye" For 2 weeks.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1_gvMJro21tkh5g8uADojTXB4NdJpI9Gd?usp=sharing

Prof. Stoned said...

Cheers! Didn't have it.

Noises From Apt 2A said...

Hey everyone ... the link for "Goodbye " is now open for everyone....sorry for the restriction.

Anonymous said...

Man, how can we ever thank you for all the joy you're bringing to us for so many years now. This time also a special thanks to Noises From Apt 2A.

shadreck said...

Great work, prof ... thank you for enhancing these tracks.

Noises From Apt 2A said...

Prof, Your posting of "Wheels of Fire" has sent me down a "rabbit hole". The search for Flat Master Cd which were transferred correctly. Seth Foster seems to have a handle on the job at task with the 2013 / 2014 Cream catalogue, the 2013 Derek & The Dominos "Layla ..." as well as some of the James Brown Singles series. Richard Whittaker & Mick MeKenna also did fine jobs on the 2013 Rolling Stones "Sticky Fingers" and "Exile on Main Street". So the question here is: What are other well executed Flat Master CDs out there ?

pq said...

I have a flac rip of the Japanese SACD which has an SHM number - happy to send you a copy if it's of interest, although I don't know if it's also a straight transfer of the master.

anchovyarchives said...

How does this compare with your work on the Doctor Robert MFSL vinyl rip from 2012 ? Looking forward to giving it a blast, thanks Prof......

Prof. Stoned said...

This is much better.

Noises From Apt 2A said...

pg ...Thanks for the offer but I just found it on line ... also to anyone interested, there's a ton of SHM CD of DSD Flat Transfers over at Lossless Music Archives. Just verify the version you're checking out over at Discogs to make sure.

Silvio said...

Many thanks for this one, Professor.

Anonymous said...

Eugene is correct...nothing since DCC has really been from original master...big surprise right? But this still sounds quite nice.

Anonymous said...

http://microdynamiks.blogspot.com/2015/08/chapter-2-steve-hoffman-tape-thief.html

Kelhard said...

Hey Prof, was your source a different source than used on the 2010 UIGY-9042 (SHM - SACD)

Noises From Apt 2A said...

Back in the early days of CD mastering (late 80s / early 90s) labels like Mobile Fidelity & DCC seemed like a godsend simply because the major labels hardly ever gave credit to who was responsible for Cd mastering. Back in early days of CDs there really were some incredibly bad jobs done were basically the frequency floodgates were open on full which resulted in shrill sounding recordings. Since Mobile Fidelity already had a reputation of reissuing beautifully mastered vinyl there was total trust in their ability to understand the dynamics of CD mastering. DCC (which started as a reissue label of some Leon Russell, Ray Charles and compilations by The Zombies and the 2 Underground Radio discs) quickly adjusted the business strategy to copy Mobile Fidelity due to Hoffman's former job of CD mastering at MCA.
Anyway most of us took DCC at face value because they copied the format of Mobile Fidelity but upped the packaging to include a non generic CD cover and booklet (which include photos of the original record label art and such) and since most of us were A/Bing original CD reissues to DCC remasters they did sound different and, as many of us thought, better.
We also thought that these "better" remasters were sounding closer to the original vinyl masters and not rewriting audio history.

I think many of us started having our "ears opened" when cats like Dr. Ebbetts appeared to do amazing vinyl rips and try, with limited audio trickery, get as close to the original as possible.

As we move further into the world of reissues and remasterings I do hope that other labels will take a look at what Universal ( but not just as high priced Japanese Audiophile Imports) has done with highlighting reissues of DSD Flat Transfers so that we aren't left with a world of historical recording being remastered to satisfy the "Beat Headphone Generation"

Anonymous said...

Thsnk you very much for your expertise and generosity, professor.
Walt

Limey said...

Thank you for this post, but link seems dead...? Please could it be renewed?

Prof. Stoned said...

Link is not dead, silly.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for CSG decoded

-no time-

MeanMrKite said...

thanks Prof Stoned as always, and thanks again for the eddycation i'm getting in the posts above!

My head is swimming. Time for some PS music :D

Bear From Delaware said...

I don't know if it's a issue with Google but every time I download,it's unsuccessful due to "unknown network errors".

Wheezer said...

Thanks for Wheels of Fire. Can't wait to hear this rip

Old_fat_bloke said...

Thank you again mate

Noises From Apt 2A said...

Prof, Have you given any thought to applying your handywork to the 2015 "Cream - The Singles 1967 - 1970" box set ?

Anonymous said...

Outstanding. I have multiple versions of this album, but never managed to track this one down. Thank you very much for providing it.

JazC said...

Thank you again. A trip back to the heady days of youth...

Simon29 said...

Many thanks Dr Professor

Anonym said...

THANK You so Very Very much!!!
Outstanding Sound!!!!
But what about the UK Mono of WOF??
Been looking for it a Long Time to hear.

Prof. Stoned said...

Just sum the stereo channels to one and there you have it.

Anonym said...

OK...so the UK original is a reduction Mix only))))
I hoped it was a dedicated one...
Anyway thank you very much again for your GREAT Work!

lemonflag said...

Thanks

A Local Bloke said...

Wow that sounds great thank you so much for your hard work and dedication to all this! It's truly astounding!

ThePoodleBites said...

I, too, always thought that this record sounded "weird" -- now, it feels a bit "weird" to hear the unprocessed mixes! Thanks for doing the work on this.

rowland said...

Very nice. Many thanks.

progrockfan said...

This sounds soooo much better than the official release. Thank you sir!! :) :) :)

Anonymous said...

Thanks, this is now my go-to version of my many variants (WG & US Monarch vinyl, WG and DCC CDs). Really really good!!

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