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Who? Retired sound engineer who loves music from the 60's & early 70's.
What? My aim is to make rare stuff publicly available again with the best possible sound quality.
POINT OF INTEREST: Is it just a strange coincidence that Top Gear 30 June 1968 is missing the exact three songs that appeared on Saturday Club 20 July 1968? Similarly, that same Saturday Club show is missing the one song that does appear in the Top Gear show.
This seems to the most logical, based on the recording info in Ken Garner's book and the date of the transcription disc from which those three 'July 68' tracks are taken. But I might be totally off. Pearly Queen has a Peel comment at the end, and thus has to be from the June session.
I had several other versions of BBC 1967-1968. Just before I deleted all of them, I checked the "complete" version from Pink Robert. Lo and behold, most of the missing tracks you mentioned were there, along with Dear Mr. Fantasy from the first session. I hope Pink Robert was accurate and that we can look forward to one of your many updates.
I should also mention that one version I have states that some of the broadcasts were done at the wrong speed/pitch. I am curious if you check that is an issue and if you correct that when necessary.
I hope you find this helpful. If you need any further information, I will watch your comments. Thanks again!!!
There is no such thing. The PR set has the same version of DMF twice: one edited, one unedited, just like here. Same for Dealer & Heaven: same versions in different speeds. And one of the two versions of Feelin' Alright on his set is actually the single version. There is nothing on the PR set that is not here or should be here. And as usual, all my masters run in the correct speed.
Thanks for this effort. Looking forward to listening. For the record "You Can All Join In", "Feelin' Alright" & "Who Knows What Tomorrow May Bring" from the June 30, 1968 Top Gear do exist as I have copies, albeit they are all mp3. They all have John Peel intros and/or outros and are from the actual original broadcast. However, obvipusly the quality is not as good as the ones here from the Transcription Disc. Speaking of the Transcrition Disc labeled as the July 20, 1968 Saturday Club as the source for those three tracks, although I have not compared them to the Top Gear recordings, I suspect that they may be from the October 4, 1968 Top of the Pops broadcast with Brian Matthew. Top of the Pops BBC Transcription Disc #203 from the October 4, 1968 broadcast contains all three tracks.
TourArchive - those 'Top of the Pops' shows with Brian Matthew were practically always compiled using tracks from previously broadcast sessions from other shows.
Yes thanks sydfloyd, that is correct. the bands did not perform unique sessions for the Top of the Pops radio program, but as you said they utilized sessions recorded for other BBC radio programs. Although the Transcription Discs did provide high quality source for many BBC session material, unfortunately Brian Matthew would talk over the beginning or the ending of the songs, whereas that was a much rarer occurrence on the original BBC session programs.
I will state from the outset that comparing similarly played songs and identifying them as different recordings is not my strong suit. With that said, the "You Can All Join In" & the "Feelin' Alright" from the June 30, 1968 John Peel Top Gear program appear to be the same recordings as those same tracks that were on the October 4, 1968 Top Of the Pops tracks included under your July 15, 1968 tracks. However, the "Who Knows What Tomorrow May Bring" from the June 30, 1968 John Peel Top Gear program is a completely different recording than as that same track that was on the October 4, 1968 Top Of the Pops track included under your July 15, 1968 tracks. The Top Gear track is longer, with nearly a minute of guitar intro before Steve Winwood begins singing and a nearly 20 second longer guitar piece following the repetitive "Who Knows What Tomorrow May Bring" verses towards the end.
Okay, the plot thickens. Who Knows What Tomorrow May Bring is the same version, but it is a longer one. It was pretty common that the Beeb edited the versions that went on the transcription disc. So this is a nice find!
Wow ... Traffic !!! I've been digging your BBC projects but this is really special. Ever since my older sister brought the "Traffic" album into the house back in '68 I became in awe of this group. It wasn't because of Winwood because I really didn't know about his past at the time ( I was only 11) but the album was so well crafted that they sounded miles above anyone else. Finally saw Traffic in NYC at The Academy of Music for their "Shoot Out At The Fantasy Factory" and it was / and IS the best concert I ever went to.
With respect to the September 25, 1967 Top Gear recordings, "Paper Sun", "A House For Everyone" and "Hole In My Shoe" & the interview appear to come from the November 3, 1967 (#153) Top of the Pops with Brian Matthew. The "Smiling Phases" appears to come from the December 1, 1967 (#157) Top of The Pops with Brian Matthew. The off-air source of "Coloured Rain" sounds as if it could be from one of the David Symonds Show broadcasts on October 23 - October 26, 1967. According to Ken Garner we seem to be missing the "Dear Mr. Fantasy" that was apparently only broadcast during the October 29, 1967 repeat of the September 25, 1967 session recordings.
RE: The DMT airing, the Garner book sez Oct 1969, not 1967. I think he added that info from another source than the bbc microfilm because it makes no sense. Not broadcast until 2 years after recording, while the bbc only saved their masters for 6 months. So I doubt there was a DMF from the Sept 25 session to begin with and if there was it certainly has never circulated.
The announcer before Coloured Rain is Pete Drummond, indicating this was from the first airing on Oct. 1.
The tracks are indeed source from those transcription discs, i'll mention them again next time.
The entry in the book for "Dear Mr. Fantasy" of 1969 is wrong as there was no Top Gear on October 29, 1969 (October 25 & November 1, 1969). It was in fact broadcast during the September 25, 1967 repeat broadcast on Top Gear on October 29, 1967, along with "Paper Sun", "A House For Everyone", "Hole In My Shoe" & "Coloured Rain".
Thanks for your help in identifying my "other" version of "Coloured Rain" as coming from John Peel's & Tommy Vance's December 31, 1967 Top Gear show and was simply the "Mr. Fantasy" LP version with John Peel's comment preceding and following the song.
Superb, one of my favourites bands and been hoping for something like this as I have bits and pieces from these sessions from different torrents so it's good to have it organised by someone who knows what they're doing
This is fantastic. Never did I dream you'd actually do Mason Capaldi. Now all my remastering attempts can cease. And a great quality Blindman!!!! Wow!!! you're the best. Thanks so much.
Fantastic!! This is something I've been looking for in good quality for a long time. Thanks for all the time and effort you put in, and for sharing your labours with us.
I just want to add my note of thanks for your tremendous work on these Traffic sessions. btw, although you can't work on everything, I would be interested to see your personal recommendation for sources of other live / in-session recordings by Traffic (and other performers that catch your interest).
I just can say: Excellent work, for a good music! How can i be not grateful for what you have done for us! Many many thanks and have a long road in this way. A french supporter!
Thank you kindly for another upgrade, and thanks for constantly looking for and finding new and better sounding material. Hats off to you prof, and I salute you. Bravo. dr blues
Professor, your fine BBC work makes me wonder if you happen to have a source for the Graham Bond BBC sessions he cut in 1963 with Jack Bruce, Ginger Baker, and John McLaughlin.
They were featured on "Graham Bond - Live At BBC And Other Stories 1962-72", but *heavily* noise-reduced, lacking any zest.
Great to hear some new good quality MCW&F material, Traffic in all but name. Noticed one thing that seems to be missing from the comp, Paper Sun as originally transmitted is longer than the transcription version by almost a minute. It's on the circulated mp3 of the first Top Gear. Thanks for all the amazing material you get out there.
I have literally spent over 20 years working on MCW&F and now I have reached the end of my road. Perfect quality, I will be eternally grateful to you forever!!!
I've had these sessions from two different sources for many years and thought both were good quality. In fact I still do but your work on this is next level. Many thanks Prof.
Thanks, Prof. Great post.
ReplyDeletePOINT OF INTEREST: Is it just a strange coincidence that Top Gear 30 June 1968 is missing the exact three songs that appeared on Saturday Club 20 July 1968? Similarly, that same Saturday Club show is missing the one song that does appear in the Top Gear show.
Yes, definitely...
ReplyDeleteThis seems to the most logical, based on the recording info in Ken Garner's book and the date of the transcription disc from which those three 'July 68' tracks are taken. But I might be totally off. Pearly Queen has a Peel comment at the end, and thus has to be from the June session.
Thanks very much.
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ReplyDeleteDear Prof Stoned,
ReplyDeleteYou are the greatest.
Thank you more times than I can count.
Wow, Proffo! Thanks a kazillion for your awesome efforts. Really looking forward! Keep your spirit, mate! Th:-)mas
ReplyDeleteI had several other versions of BBC 1967-1968. Just before I deleted all of them, I checked the "complete" version from Pink Robert. Lo and behold, most of the missing tracks you mentioned were there, along with Dear Mr. Fantasy from the first session. I hope Pink Robert was accurate and that we can look forward to one of your many updates.
ReplyDeleteI should also mention that one version I have states that some of the broadcasts were done at the wrong speed/pitch. I am curious if you check that is an issue and if you correct that when necessary.
I hope you find this helpful. If you need any further information, I will watch your comments. Thanks again!!!
> Dear Mr. Fantasy from the first session
ReplyDeleteThere is no such thing. The PR set has the same version of DMF twice: one edited, one unedited, just like here. Same for Dealer & Heaven: same versions in different speeds. And one of the two versions of Feelin' Alright on his set is actually the single version. There is nothing on the PR set that is not here or should be here. And as usual, all my masters run in the correct speed.
Thank you. Nice work, appreciated.
ReplyDeleteExcellent. Thank you
ReplyDeleteThank you thank you thank you, this will be great fun to listen to!
ReplyDeleteAwesome thank you to you and the contributors!!
ReplyDeleteI just compared these versions to those that I previously had. This is a clear winner.
Wow.... Thanks so much
ReplyDeleteThanks for this effort. Looking forward to listening. For the record "You Can All Join In", "Feelin'
ReplyDeleteAlright" & "Who Knows What Tomorrow May Bring" from the June 30, 1968 Top Gear do exist as I have
copies, albeit they are all mp3. They all have John Peel intros and/or outros and are from the
actual original broadcast. However, obvipusly the quality is not as good as the ones here from the
Transcription Disc. Speaking of the Transcrition Disc labeled as the July 20, 1968 Saturday Club as
the source for those three tracks, although I have not compared them to the Top Gear recordings, I
suspect that they may be from the October 4, 1968 Top of the Pops broadcast with Brian Matthew. Top
of the Pops BBC Transcription Disc #203 from the October 4, 1968 broadcast contains all three tracks.
Many thanks for your great work Prof. Stoned.
ReplyDeleteSuper work. Many thanks.
ReplyDeleteTourArchive - those 'Top of the Pops' shows with Brian Matthew were practically always compiled using tracks from previously broadcast sessions from other shows.
ReplyDeleteYes thanks sydfloyd, that is correct. the bands did not perform unique sessions for the Top of the Pops radio program, but as you said they utilized sessions recorded for other BBC radio programs. Although the Transcription Discs did provide high quality source for many BBC session material, unfortunately Brian Matthew would talk over the beginning or the ending of the songs, whereas that was a much rarer occurrence on the original BBC session programs.
Delete@Tourarchive; Can you please compare them to the ones I labelled 15-7 and see if they are different?
ReplyDeleteTOTP #203 has been the source for these tracks, indeed.
I will state from the outset that comparing similarly played songs and identifying them as different recordings is not my strong suit. With that said, the "You Can All Join In" & the "Feelin' Alright" from the June 30, 1968 John Peel Top Gear program appear to be the same recordings as those same tracks that were on the October 4, 1968 Top Of the Pops tracks included under your July 15, 1968 tracks. However, the "Who Knows What Tomorrow May Bring" from the June 30, 1968 John Peel Top Gear program is a completely different recording than as that same track that was on the October 4, 1968 Top Of the Pops track included under your July 15, 1968 tracks. The Top Gear track is longer, with nearly a minute of guitar intro before Steve Winwood begins singing and a nearly 20 second longer guitar piece following the repetitive "Who Knows What Tomorrow May Bring" verses towards the end.
DeleteI'd like to get your MP3s. Could you send a wetransfer link in the contact box, top left?
DeleteOkay, the plot thickens. Who Knows What Tomorrow May Bring is the same version, but it is a longer one. It was pretty common that the Beeb edited the versions that went on the transcription disc. So this is a nice find!
DeleteWow ... Traffic !!! I've been digging your BBC projects but this is really special. Ever since my older sister brought the "Traffic" album into the house back in '68 I became in awe of this group.
ReplyDeleteIt wasn't because of Winwood because I really didn't know about his past at the time ( I was only 11) but the album was so well crafted that they sounded miles above anyone else. Finally saw Traffic in NYC at The Academy of Music for their "Shoot Out At The Fantasy Factory" and it was / and IS the best concert I ever went to.
Thanks so much !!
Thank you! Your efforts are much appreciated!
ReplyDeleteMy favorite of the BBC series what a great band Traffic were Thank you for this important music that came out of British radio in the 1960's.
ReplyDeleteMy favorite of the BBC series what a great band Traffic were Thank you for this important music that came out of British radio in the 1960's.
ReplyDeleteMany thanks - a favorite band since 1969, and looking forward to these tracks.
ReplyDeleteThanks!
ReplyDeleteWith respect to the September 25, 1967 Top Gear recordings, "Paper Sun", "A House For Everyone" and "Hole In My Shoe" & the interview appear to come from the November 3, 1967 (#153) Top of the Pops with Brian Matthew. The "Smiling Phases" appears to come from the December 1, 1967 (#157) Top of The Pops with Brian Matthew. The off-air source of "Coloured Rain" sounds as if it could be from one of the David Symonds Show broadcasts on October 23 - October 26, 1967. According to Ken Garner we seem to be missing the "Dear Mr. Fantasy" that was apparently only broadcast during the October 29, 1967 repeat of the September 25, 1967 session recordings.
ReplyDeleteRE: The DMT airing, the Garner book sez Oct 1969, not 1967. I think he added that info from another source than the bbc microfilm because it makes no sense. Not broadcast until 2 years after recording, while the bbc only saved their masters for 6 months. So I doubt there was a DMF from the Sept 25 session to begin with and if there was it certainly has never circulated.
DeleteThe announcer before Coloured Rain is Pete Drummond, indicating this was from the first airing on Oct. 1.
The tracks are indeed source from those transcription discs, i'll mention them again next time.
The entry in the book for "Dear Mr. Fantasy" of 1969 is wrong as there was no Top Gear on October 29, 1969 (October 25 & November 1, 1969). It was in fact broadcast during the September 25, 1967 repeat broadcast on Top Gear on October 29, 1967, along with "Paper Sun", "A House For Everyone", "Hole In My Shoe" & "Coloured Rain".
DeleteI'll take your word on that.
DeleteThanks for your help in identifying my "other" version of "Coloured Rain" as coming from John Peel's & Tommy Vance's December 31, 1967 Top Gear show and was simply the "Mr. Fantasy" LP version with John Peel's comment preceding and following the song.
DeleteCheers, good to meet you!
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ReplyDeleteSo, it's not a "strange coincidence", after all. Cool.
ReplyDeleteThanks so much for this Traffic posting and all the other great remasters!
ReplyDeleteThanks so much for this Traffic posting and all the other great remasters!
ReplyDeleteThanks so much for this Traffic posting and all the other great remasters!
ReplyDeleteThanks for the upgrade. Much appreciated. The mid to late sixties was a mighty time.
ReplyDeleteNice!!! Thank you.
ReplyDeleteWhat has been updated?
ReplyDeletev1.1: 27-10-2021 (upgraded 'Pearly Queen' & long version of 'Who knows what tomorrow' added)
DeleteMuito obrigado Professor
ReplyDeleteAté que enfim com uma qualidade fantástica
Thank you
Thanks for all your hard work loving this and the BBC Tomorrow set!
ReplyDeleteThanks for the time , love and passion you have put into preserving these gems , and sharing them with us.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the update. I'm pretty sure the version of Blindman on YT is better quality than this and hasn't been NR to death like the PR one had.
ReplyDeleteThanks!
ReplyDeleteSuperb, one of my favourites bands and been hoping for something like this as I have bits and pieces from these sessions from different torrents so it's good to have it organised by someone who knows what they're doing
ReplyDeleteThis is fantastic. Never did I dream you'd actually do Mason Capaldi. Now all my remastering attempts can cease. And a great quality Blindman!!!! Wow!!! you're the best. Thanks so much.
ReplyDeletebut for the record, Leavin Blues has a short final note of around 10 seconds that is missing here and I've never heard it in good quality.
DeleteCan you send it to me? There is a contact form on the left side.
DeleteThank you Professor for your hard work and dedication to perfection. Enjoying these shares.
ReplyDeleteAs always thank you. I have been re-discovering Traffic lately and this really hits the spot. Great band and great share.
ReplyDeleteMany thanks Professor!
ReplyDeleteThanks for your labours of love!
ReplyDeleteFantastic, thanks Prof!
ReplyDeleteThanks for posting this!!
ReplyDeleteThank You very much!
ReplyDeleteThank you Prof. Stoned
ReplyDeleteThank you, just great.
ReplyDeleteYour hard work is very much appreciated. Thanks!
ReplyDeleteThank you for this. You do a great job. To me; after the Beatles and the Stones, it was Traffic. Just my opinion.
ReplyDeletethank you for these Traffic gems...
ReplyDeleteFantastic!! This is something I've been looking for in good quality for a long time. Thanks for all the time and effort you put in, and for sharing your labours with us.
ReplyDeletethanks Professor!
ReplyDeleteI just want to add my note of thanks for your tremendous work on these Traffic sessions. btw, although you can't work on everything, I would be interested to see your personal recommendation for sources of other live / in-session recordings by Traffic (and other performers that catch your interest).
ReplyDeleteMany thanks - will enjoy soon
ReplyDeleteThank you!
ReplyDeleteMany thanks.
ReplyDeleteThank you very much for this fantastic compilation!
ReplyDeleteThank You Good Sir! :)
ReplyDeleteBless you! you are the real deal! thanks so much for this awesome work... Steve Winwood should hire you to work on this projects!
ReplyDeleteThanks for all of your efforts!
ReplyDeleteI just can say: Excellent work, for a good music! How can i be not grateful for what you have done for us! Many many thanks and have a long road in this way. A french supporter!
ReplyDeletev1.2: 29-07-2023 (upgraded Tr. 04 and added Tr 05-06 to first MCW&F session & upgraded Tr. 01 and newly mastered Tr 02-04 of second MCW&F session).
ReplyDeleteSo in short, the Mason, Capaldi, Wood & Frog section has been given a complete overhaul, incl. some previously unheard material!
Thank you kindly for another upgrade, and thanks for constantly looking for and finding new and better sounding material. Hats off to you prof, and I salute you. Bravo.
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Thanks for updating your work Prof. Much appreciated !
ReplyDeleteThank you once again for your outstanding work
ReplyDeleteCheers, Prof! Great update!!
ReplyDeletePaging CRAIG for help with the artwork :D
Thanks yet again for your incredible attention to detail and new sources!
ReplyDeleteProfessor, your fine BBC work makes me wonder if you happen to have a source for the Graham Bond BBC sessions he cut in 1963 with Jack Bruce, Ginger Baker, and John McLaughlin.
ReplyDeleteThey were featured on "Graham Bond - Live At BBC And Other Stories 1962-72", but *heavily* noise-reduced, lacking any zest.
Thanks for the update
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ReplyDeleteIt's you
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ReplyDeleteProf. Stoned, you the man. Traffic was some quality music back then...and now.
ReplyDeleteGreat to hear some new good quality MCW&F material, Traffic in all but name. Noticed one thing that seems to be missing from the comp, Paper Sun as originally transmitted is longer than the transcription version by almost a minute. It's on the circulated mp3 of the first Top Gear. Thanks for all the amazing material you get out there.
ReplyDeleteThanks, it has been added.
DeleteThanks for the update!
ReplyDeleteAnother excellent remastering job! Many thanks for this and all the other fine work you do, Prof.
ReplyDeleteThanks
ReplyDeleteI have literally spent over 20 years working on MCW&F and now I have reached the end of my road. Perfect quality, I will be eternally grateful to you forever!!!
ReplyDeleteThanks very much Profstoned, amazing music. Anyone have any good Foghat recordings?
ReplyDeleteCheers.
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Thanks as always, Prof S. Your name on an album is most definitely a kitemark of quality!
ReplyDeleteI've had these sessions from two different sources for many years and thought both were good quality. In fact I still do but your work on this is next level. Many thanks Prof.
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ReplyDeleteThanks AGAIN!!!!
ReplyDeleteThank you for this one.
ReplyDeleteThanks again for the update. Wonderful.
ReplyDeleteThank you very much for the update
ReplyDeleteOnce again...spectacular. Many thanks
ReplyDeleteThank you!
ReplyDeleteMany thanks Prof!
ReplyDeleteMany thanks for your great work. Your spirit in looking to share this music is uplifting.
ReplyDeleteThank you Prof! All your hard work is most appreciated. Enjoying the great sound quality.
ReplyDeleteThank You!
ReplyDeleteThanks again - and again...
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ReplyDeleteFixed.
DeleteThank you for your hard work. So much great music you’re keeping alive.
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ReplyDeleteGreat stuff, Professor .....
ReplyDeleteThe Traffic BBC stuff is outstanding.
Let's get stoned, enjoy the music !!!
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