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Friday, August 6, 2021

Them - The Even More Complete Them 1964-66 [A Prof Stoned Comp] Update 8-2021: New DVD + Uncirculated Track



















CD Quality (16bit/44.1kHz) + DVD (3.4 GB)
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90 comments:

  1. No, I usually don't pirate commercially available source material....

    This one is gonna have to be the one exception, and for a good reason: the official release is a lot less good without my additions & revisionism.

    If you are reading this, you probably already have downloaded my separate Them releases "The Lost Decca Tapes" and "The Decca Vintage Stereo Tapes 1964-66". This new release puts those two together with the official 2015 release on Sony Legacy.

    Once again, I'm not happy with the fact that I'm copying a readily available official release. But it's more important that a few people get to hear the compilation in this much improved form.

    Spread it 'round if you can!

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  2. Thanks! The Definitive Them and my new one-stop shop for a Them fix!

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  3. Thank you. Thank you. THANK YOU!!!!!

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  4. it's really wonderfull priceless work. thank you VERY MUCH!!!

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  5. Thanks for all the great work on this Prof!

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  6. Thanks for your persistent striving for perfection, Prof!

    tambler

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  7. Unbelievable research as usual. Thank you!

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  8. Thanks as always to the good Professor

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  9. Thanks very much for this fine collection.

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  10. Thanks prof, very nice job.

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  11. Wow Prof. Fantastic! Thank you very much for this updated inclusive version, it makes things easier for the rest of us. Your labor of love does not go unappreciated. Thanks a ton!

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  12. Thank you so much, Prof.! Unbelievable, painstakingly researched and mastered. What an achievement! However, when burning the 3-CD-Set, I ran into two problems. First: On the burned CD 2, all tracks appear only as "Untitled" when I start my media player (which is VU Player). On CD 1, everything's OK, all track names are correctly displayed. Second problem: When I try to burn the 3rd CD, my burning software (which is CDBurner XP) tells me the 27 tracks need 84 Minutes and 36 Seconds(2 seconds pause between tracks included), which unfortunately is even beyond the overburning capacity I can handle (82 Mins, 42 Secs). Prof., can you check this?

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  13. The last track on CD3 is a non-CDR bonus. There's another mix of this same take on CD3 which sounds better anyway, so no big loss. The other thing is a problem with your burning software, since all files have the same metadata. PS

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  14. Very informative notes along with excellent sound! Thanks so much for all the research and hard work assembling this great collection.

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  15. all the kindest thanks for the music and investigations, Prof.Stoned.
    Your efforts always like a true sorcery

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  16. Thank You So Much For All You Do.I Wouldn't And Others Who Know Your Work Believe That You Pirated A Commercially Product.I'm With You About The importance of The Music. I Feel Respected That There Are Guys Like You Who Will Tell The True Facts About The Music I Enjoy.

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  17. Thank you for going the extra mile to fill in the gaps that are typical with official releases. I own the "Story of Them" 2CD on Deram. I went back and listened to it and with a few exceptions, most of the recordings they used are really bad, but you already know that. Even with my ears, this collection really puts an exclamation point on the complete recording of Them. I couldn't help but to make my own playlist using the UK discography to hear how the songs came out as released. Two things of note: 1. On the Story of Them, the old Deram CD has it complete with no break between part 1 and 2. and it's not from a really bad source. 2. The second BBC version of Gloria has the Brian Matthews intro, but I found that it exists without the intro. It can be found on the 1987 radio series "The 60s at the Beeb" narrated by Andy Peebles.

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  18. >1. On the Story of Them, the old Deram CD has it complete with no break between part 1 and 2. and it's not from a really bad source.

    Edited together from the 'bad' source.

    > 2. The second BBC version of Gloria has the Brian Matthews intro, but I found that it exists without the intro. It can be found on the 1987 radio series "The 60s at the Beeb" narrated by Andy Peebles.

    Listen again. The intro has been 'fixed' with a bit from further within the song.

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  19. You really did us all a great favor with this one. Thanks a million Prof! You're the absolute best.

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  20. Thank You Prof,
    Could you please tell us what original sources you used for the stereo mixes.
    Thanks so much again.

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  21. My little baby from USA LP Story of Them (London 1977)
    Dress in Black from UK LP Them (See for miles, 1984).
    Gloria & Here Comes from Rhino compilation CD's from 90's (forgot the titles).
    Richard Cory (alt. 1966 mix), Gave my love (Take 9) & Half as much from 2CD Story of Them (Deram 1997) cause that's the only place where they appeared.
    The rest from the old London/Deram CD's.

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  22. I haven't made my way completely through this but everything I've heard so far is absolutely wonderful! Thanks so very much Prof and keep up the great work!

    Bobby Sutliff

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  23. I'll listen again to the BBC Gloria track. I didn't even consider the intro was a patch from another part of the song...oh well, it's not too bad of a fix. As for "Story of", I thought it sounded "better" than many of the fake stereo and some of the other tracks on the CD that had some wonky flangy sound. More of a straight up mono. I'll be honest, my ears aren't as good as they used to be and I don't have the playback equipment to really make a good assessment, but I do what I can. I trust your reviews, and I really dig your products.

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  24. Many thanks, great stuff, as always.

    Dubley

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  25. Thank you Prof for making an already great official compilation even better with your time, dedication and research. Much appreciated.

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  26. Excellent work as always, Prof!

    MB

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  27. Stupendous effort. Beautifully archived and arranged. Thanks.

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  28. marvellous! thank you very much - that's my weekend listening sorted!

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  29. Where did you get the BBC interviews from? If you've got any full transcription disc transfers I'd love to do some trades!

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  30. I only got the 2 Them sessions from a fellow fan.

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  31. Great,great job Prof !
    This is Christmas before its time hey ;-)

    Thank you very much !
    You did it once again...

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  32. Thanks a lot. Really appreciate your work. Have a great Xmas.
    Best,
    Michael

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  33. Many thanks Professor. You're great!

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  34. I haven't downloaded this set of yours yet, but I just took the last 10-20 minutes or so to read it, and all I have to say is.... wow. I may need to read it again a few more times to absorb every little detail, but forget Wonderwall or the Beatles Christmas Album, this may very well be your coup of the year. I can already tell that much TLC went into this package. Can't wait to get it for myself and hear how it sounds. Thanks very much!

    It blows my mind that there have been 2 previous releases of Them that you've done and I've missed... clearly, I've been gone for way too long.

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  35. Thank you, Prof! A superb collection which shows your exhaustive research and knowledge. A fine complement to the official 3CD set which I have. Thanks!

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  36. I love fan's like you, who really do care about making the complete and best copies of material available.

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  37. Thank you! You do great work and I appreciate it.

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  38. This is fabulous, Prof. Thanks!

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  39. Finally we get to hear this as how it should be officially released.

    Thank You so very much!

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  40. Thank you for all the hard work you put into this. Much appreciated.

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  41. Just unbelievable to have this! Thank you deeply. It will now be enjoyed as it was supposed to have been all along. Van the man was fierce; his vocals are giving me goosebumps that are a little harder and longer-lasting than the ones Jagger's Aftermath and Morrison's Matrix Tapes (bootleg NOT official versions) have been giving lately...

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  42. many thanks, knocks the official version out of the park

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  43. There are at least a couple of live recordings by Them that didn't make it to this excellent comp. One is "Here Comes the Night" (3:57) and the other is a lengthy "Turn On Your Love Light" (8:09). They are on The N.M.E. Poll Winners' Concert 1965, which is available both on a bootleg and on YouTube with correct video.

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  44. I serendipitously happened upon this and want to convey my thanks. I've never binged on Them, so it's been fun and educational listening to everything in one big chunk.

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  45. Just happened upon your blog - incredible!! Being a Van fanatic, I of course got the 3-CD when it came out, but appreciate the extras you have provided here. Thank you so much!

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  46. There aren't supposed to be new mixes on the Them set by Sandoval or anyone else are there? Just remastering of the original mono. Forgive me if I've missed something but then again I can't even download from your site anymore with a mac.

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  47. Great work as usual professor, thanks!

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  48. Superb! - Thank you so much.

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  49. This is another band where I've been trying to run down the proper mono mixes....thank you very much!

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  50. Something you got
    Make me work all day
    Something you got
    make me bring you all of my pay

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  51. Excellent...superb...thank you so much Prof.

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  52. Thank you so much for all the hard work you put into this, amazing!

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  53. v1.0: 25-11-2016
    v1.1: 06-08-2021 (Bonus DVD, Essay & 'Got My Mojo Working'* added.

    * This track appears here in mastertape quality and has previously *only* circulated with poor sound. Morrison vainly blocked it from the official release because Billy Harrison sings it.

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  54. Thanks, Professor.

    I'm comparing version 1 to this new version 2.

    "Demos, Sessions & Remixes" (version 2) differs from "CD3" (version 1) in the following way:

    "Got My Mojo Working" (demo 1964) has been added.

    "Richard Cory" (alternate take 1966 mix) has been deleted.

    "Mighty Like A Rose" has been deleted.

    Was this intentional? If so, why?

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  55. Is it because both of the deleted tracks appear on The Decca Vintage Stereo Tapes 1964-66 ?????

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  56. They have been moved, not deleted.

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  57. Thank you for your amazing work on this - the music and the info!

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  58. It's like Christmas in summer !!
    Thanks a lot Prof !

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  59. Wowie Wow Wow, Prof ! ... I am speechless.

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  60. Mucho Grass SeƱor!

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  61. Thank you indeed for this fantastic set. Amen.

    dr blues

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  62. What an unexpected treat! Thank you!

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  63. Thanks for this expanded version!

    Re the song Story of Them: If you delete the last 30 seconds of part 1 (which are identical to the last half minute part 2),
    it is possible to seamlessly edit the two parts together (the edit point is at 3:22).

    Apparently they just cut the 7:03 song in half, copied the fade-out and edited it onto part 1 to create a two-part single.

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  64. Can't believe I never noticed that after decades of listening. You made my day!! Corrected version coming up.

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  65. v1.0: 25-11-2016
    v1.1: 06-08-2021 (Bonus DVD, Essay & 'Got My Mojo Working' added)
    v1.2: 07-08-2021 ('Story of Them' restored back to original length, thx Arne!)


    Upgrade 1.2 kit here (includes SOT, Info.txt & Essay): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZZQxJqWtF6bb8NDXTAn2LumRYjQhWgG5/view?usp=sharing

    Same pass as always.

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  66. Brilliant stuff, many thanks.

    Dubley

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  67. Hi Prof.,

    first of all thank you again for another fantastic work.

    I have a small question and if you find the time maybe you can answer it.

    I realize that you took the Stereo "I'm Gonna Dress In Black" from the See For Miles Re-Issue. Could you please tell me if this was the first ever Stereo release of that song or if not where was it first released in Stereo.

    I'm trying to add the first release cat. numbers for every recording but I couldn't find any definitive answer where this was first released in Stereo.

    Maybe you could share some light on this.

    Many thanks again.

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  68. Yeah, that was the first time it appeared in stereo (1984).

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  69. Thank you for your quick answer. I really appreciate it.

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  70. Thank you again, and thanks for the essay. It was very informative.

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  71. What do i have to do to if I only want to download 'Got My Mojo Working'?

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  72. Once again, you've made the best even better. My hat's off to you once more, and i don't even wear hats! That's how great your work is, Prof...

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  73. This is fantastic, thanks so much for this and a previous version of this that I grabbed a while back.

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  74. Perfect! Excellent DVD, how times change. Thank you

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  75. Many thanks for the upgrade Prof. Stoned.

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  76. Thanks for the upgrade. Cheers, MZ

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  77. Thank You very much!

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  78. Many yhanks for the update Prof!!!

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  79. Part of the fun of these releases is reading the comments - the history helps to put so much of the music in perspective. Thanks PS.

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